The Great Hardware Debate (AMD vs. Intel)

NiGHTSFTP · Post by **NiGHTSFTP** » Wed Jul 09, 2003 12:32 am

I want to hear opinions from either side. And keep Mac/G5 out of this, everyone knows they have their niche.

My opinion?

AMD is dominant.

Currently? Paired up with an nForce2-based Motherboard and Dual-Channel DDR, you have a rock solid gaming platform.

Future? AMD Athlon64 paired with nForce3-based Motherboard.

64 bits is the future, and AMD has the right implementation. It's a superior product, running 32 and 16 bit code natively (unlike Intel's 'Itanic').

Microsoft will be providing free AMD64 support to its current Windows Server 2003, and has Windows XP Professional support ready for the Athlon64 launch.

Epic Games has UT 2003 ported, and VALVe is looking to put HL2 out the door with AMD64 support also. Doom III support is still anyones guess, but I hear John Carmack was spotted wearing an AMD shirt while coding one day...

Linux support is solid. 2.5 dev kernel has it, and 2.6 stable will have it eventually. Both RedHat and SuSE are providing solid support.

Hardware? nVidia, VIA, and SiS will be debuting chipsets for the Athlon64, and many motherboard manufacturers have boards in the works.

What does all this translate into? AMD will be powering the fastest computers on the market.

404NotFound · Post by **404NotFound** » Wed Jul 09, 2003 12:40 am

GO AMD!

I think AMD's approach of 100% native support is the way to go...

MrSiggler · Post by **MrSiggler** » Wed Jul 09, 2003 12:52 am

AMD definetly gives more for ones money, as far as performance goes. And isn't that what is important?

MidnightObsidian · Post by **MidnightObsidian** » Wed Jul 09, 2003 12:53 am

AMD all the way.

farrell2k · Post by **farrell2k** » Wed Jul 09, 2003 12:59 am

I agree with the unholy one. Cost/performnce, AMD steals the bacon!

feels · Post by **feels** » Wed Jul 09, 2003 12:59 am

It's a see-saw with me. One of these days, I'm going to drop my desktop and replace it with a notebook. And as much as I hate saying this, but Intel is OWNING AMD in the notebook department...

Forte · Post by **Forte** » Wed Jul 09, 2003 1:04 am

AMD! YEAH! and the bus is 1/2 the clockrate for the Athlon64!
(2GHz Proc = 1GHz Bus, etc, etc)

Forte · Post by **Forte** » Wed Jul 09, 2003 1:04 am

Double posts suck

NiGHTSFTP · Post by **NiGHTSFTP** » Wed Jul 09, 2003 1:08 am

@feels - ...

Windows XP Professional 64-bit Edition, running Unreal Tournament 2003.

(Pic on - http://www.tomshardware.com/game/200306 ... an-04.html)

AMD Athlon 64 featuring PowerNow! Technology, ATI M10-P - Mobility Radeon 9600 128MB, Microsoft Windows XP Professional 64-bit Edition (Latest Build), 802.11B Wireless LAN, 3 - USB 2.0 ports, 1 - 1394 port, S-Video TV out, and a built-in Memory card, MMC/Sd/MS card reader

feels · Post by **feels** » Wed Jul 09, 2003 1:40 am

NiGHTSFTP wrote:@feels - ...

Windows XP Professional 64-bit Edition, running Unreal Tournament 2003.

(Pic on - http://www.tomshardware.com/game/200306 ... an-04.html)

AMD Athlon 64 featuring PowerNow! Technology, ATI M10-P - Mobility Radeon 9600 128MB, Microsoft Windows XP Professional 64-bit Edition (Latest Build), 802.11B Wireless LAN, 3 - USB 2.0 ports, 1 - 1394 port, S-Video TV out, and a built-in Memory card, MMC/Sd/MS card reader

Yes. New info for me to absorb...

lim · Post by **lim** » Wed Jul 09, 2003 1:47 am

Amd vs. Intel?
What a nerd-fest.
Lets argue over which one of us has less of a girlfriend.

NiGHTSFTP · Post by **NiGHTSFTP** » Wed Jul 09, 2003 1:52 am

lim wrote:Amd vs. Intel?
What a nerd-fest.
Lets argue over which one of us has less of a girlfriend.

This coming from the person who also called ogg.. "just nerdy elitist garbage if you ask me."

Ignorance is running rampant over at your household. Perhaps your parents are cousins?

0newinged · Post by **0newinged** » Wed Jul 09, 2003 1:53 am

AMD's always served me well... more bang for my non-existant buck is always a high point in my books

NiGHTSFTP · Post by **NiGHTSFTP** » Wed Jul 09, 2003 1:54 am

let me reiterate. the word censor is g-a-y.

zero · Post by **zero** » Wed Jul 09, 2003 4:18 am

AMD for me, my next upgrade will be an AMD64 atm i have an athlon1800+, btw when is AMD's 64 bit processers out?.

zickfun · Post by **zickfun** » Wed Jul 09, 2003 6:02 am

jebus, u guys r all wrong...well actually it depends...if u want RAW power then Intel is the way to go..bang/buck goes to AMD...however the P43ghz800fsb not P43.06ghz533fsb is cheaper then the AMD Athlon Barton 3200+ and is also faster...lower end though AMD is the way to go......so if you got the money to spare go for a intel if not a AMD...also don't buy a AMD so soon because when the Athlon64 comes out the XP's should drop in price...

P.S.
Also Intel 875 w/ P43ghz -CAINS- a nFORCE2u400 w/ XP3200+
(Both using same pheripherals...sources from Atomic Mag for those in aus)

zickfun · Post by **zickfun** » Wed Jul 09, 2003 7:04 am

sorry hasney, when i meant raw power i meant speed

zickfun · Post by **zickfun** » Wed Jul 09, 2003 7:04 am

...in benchmarks

Nyarlathotep · Post by **Nyarlathotep** » Wed Jul 09, 2003 7:11 am

zickfun wrote:...in benchmarks

Benchmarks mean little to nothing in computing. Nor does raw power. *EFFICIENCY* is a far greater measure of performance than nominal clock speed - this is a fact.

Post by **|darc|** » Wed Jul 09, 2003 9:22 am

I went Intel.

I regret it.