What poltcial party are you....

Post by **|darc|** » Thu Nov 11, 2004 10:35 am

Democrat.

Lord_Ball wrote:I do find myself disagreeing with democrats more often, but I really don't like any parties. What the heck good is the party system anyway...

Seriously What does it truely accomplish other than dividing the country? Without it people would support the candidate they like best not because they are a certain party. I mean a lady I work with said she'd NEVER vote for a republican - what if the rep had MUCH better ideas.

Way back when communications sucked yet we still had a large country, it was impossible for candidates to have a campaign for a large office like President and get their views out to everyone. So parties formed and people just voted for the candidates who were under the party they agreed with the most.

Lord_Ball · Post by **Lord_Ball** » Thu Nov 11, 2004 12:10 pm

which back then was fine, but I'm talking about now in the technological age we have they can easily get their messages across, therefore the party system has outlived it's usefullness.

Post by **Christuserloeser** » Thu Nov 11, 2004 2:20 pm

Anarchist (ultra-atheistic democratic communist & anti-facist), or short: me

I think I'll create my own party - with only one member

Wagh · Post by **Wagh** » Thu Nov 11, 2004 2:21 pm

Lord_Ball wrote:which back then was fine, but I'm talking about now in the technological age we have they can easily get their messages across, therefore the party system has outlived it's usefullness.

Germany seems to be flourishing with some 25 parties...

bizzle · Post by **bizzle** » Thu Nov 11, 2004 2:25 pm

Lord_Ball wrote: I mean a lady I work with said she'd NEVER vote for a republican - what if the rep had MUCH better ideas.

That's impossible, though.

Wagh · Post by **Wagh** » Thu Nov 11, 2004 2:26 pm

Christuserloeser wrote:Anarchist

Pathetic.

Post by **Christuserloeser** » Thu Nov 11, 2004 2:35 pm

Random_Troll wrote:
Lord_Ball wrote:which back then was fine, but I'm talking about now in the technological age we have they can easily get their messages across, therefore the party system has outlived it's usefullness.
Germany seems to be flourishing with some 25 parties...

Yeah, great. They are all nationalists, capitalists and so on, but yes most of them are democratic oriented.

BRD Bundestag (FRG Parlament)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bundestag

SPD: Social-Democrats (once founded by Marx and Engels), now the conservative middle
CDU/CSU: Christian Social Democrats; Conservatives = Republicans, CSU is the Bayern CDU (that's the land where the Octoberfest happens each year), even more nationalistic but a bit more social oriented
FDP: Liberal-Democrats
Gr?ne/B?ndnis'90: left-winged conservative greens (pro-nature), B?ndnis'90 arose from the Forum of the former DDR/GDR
PDS: Democratic Socialists, former SED of the former DDR/GDR, kicked out of the Bundestag/Parlament last election because of the pro-SPD slogan "Vote for SPD! Prevent us from Bayern's Stoiber!" (Edmund Stoiber was the conservative CSU candidate) that kept the left away from voting for them. That's what I voted for last election... and, yes, I am member of the PDS

Landtag (united Parlament of the senats of each land)

same as above, plus:
NPD: Ultra-right-winged facists (anti-jewish, pro-muslimic)
DVU: Conservative facists (anti-jewish, anti-muslimic)
REP: "Republicans", ultra-right winged conservative 'racists' (anti-jewish, anti-muslimic)
Schill-Party: Ultra-right winged conservatives

These ultra-right-winged parties (they're all pretty Anti-American) were elected in one land each during the last elections, but that gave them access to the Landtag

Post by **Christuserloeser** » Thu Nov 11, 2004 2:36 pm

Random_Troll wrote:
Christuserloeser wrote:Anarchist
Pathetic.

Your opinion

Firthy2002 · Post by **Firthy2002** » Thu Nov 11, 2004 4:45 pm

Liberal Democrat.

The second party who'll replace the Tories come May '05.

weeperofsouls · Post by **weeperofsouls** » Thu Nov 11, 2004 5:12 pm

Lord_Ball wrote:I do find myself disagreeing with democrats more often, but I really don't like any parties. What the heck good is the party system anyway...

Seriously What does it truely accomplish other than dividing the country? Without it people would support the candidate they like best not because they are a certain party. I mean a lady I work with said she'd NEVER vote for a republican - what if the rep had MUCH better ideas.

it doesnt matter if they have better ideas or not. politics are so incredibly polarized these days. and its only going to get worse. i suppose 'with us or against us' could be seen to contribute to that mentality...

MystiK · Post by **MystiK** » Thu Nov 11, 2004 6:49 pm

independent,now.

you democrats have allowed yourself to be turned into pussy half-ass republicans, trying to pander to everyone which is why you LOST.
you republicans are assh0les which have been hijacked by the religious right.
you libertarians and green party peole are cool as hell but you're never going to win anything so why bother? seriously?

Master Higgins · Post by **Master Higgins** » Thu Nov 11, 2004 9:51 pm

Libertarian

fatheadpi · Post by **fatheadpi** » Fri Nov 12, 2004 11:49 am

Libertarian, and I voted for Banarik.

unalligned, though the libertarian party appeals to me.

weeper, you and I have more in common every day.

Seriously What does it truely accomplish other than dividing the country? Without it people would support the candidate they like best not because they are a certain party. I mean a lady I work with said she'd NEVER vote for a republican - what if the rep had MUCH better ideas.

Does it matter? I'm a Libertarian, and I voted for Republican, Democrat (albeit only one), and Libertarian Candidates in different positions.

OneThirty8 · Post by **OneThirty8** » Fri Nov 12, 2004 9:14 pm

MystiK wrote:you democrats have allowed yourself to be turned into pussy half-ass republicans, trying to pander to everyone which is why you LOST.

Not all Dems are like that. You have a point, but I've been reading what a lot of Democrats have to say lately, and I can see the whole party either taking a step further to the left just to differentiate itself from the Republicans, or else a fracture in the party. Either one is fine with me, as long as the liberal point of view is presented in a way that's accessible to the masses. I think that's why we lost, personally - we had the right idea, but had trouble getting it across.

MystiK wrote: you republicans are assh0les which have been hijacked by the religious right.

I know some Republicans that aren't like that. I think that it's the George Bush Republicans who have hijacked the Bible and abused it for their own purposes.

MystiK wrote: you libertarians and green party peole are cool as hell but you're never going to win anything so why bother? seriously?

They should bother because if they sit home and don't open their mouths, they're never going to be heard.

Master Higgins · Post by **Master Higgins** » Fri Nov 12, 2004 9:19 pm

you libertarians and green party peole are cool as hell but you're never going to win anything so why bother? seriously?

I dunno that's pretty close minded, if more people start looking into politics they'll realize the one size fits all parties are bs, it is only the idea in this country that we'll never win which keeps us from just that. Hell Ross Perot got 17% of the vote, I could see the libertarians getting 10% in the not so far off future.

Zealous zerotype · Post by **Zealous zerotype** » Fri Nov 12, 2004 9:48 pm

OneThirty8 wrote:
MystiK wrote:
MystiK wrote: you republicans are assh0les which have been hijacked by the religious right.
I know some Republicans that aren't like that. I think that it's the George Bush Republicans who have hijacked the Bible and abused it for their own purposes.

I'm a republcian and I hope you think I am not one of those republicans infact no one really runnign can repersent my views just my opinion although if I had to of voted I would of chosen bush as he had msot in common (my opinion again).I will not list them all,but lets just say no canaate I can see running any time soon will be a liberal republican.

Ex-Cyber · Post by **Ex-Cyber** » Fri Nov 12, 2004 10:18 pm

I'm registered unaffiliated. Of the two major parties I tend to agree with Democrats more than Republicans, but my ideal party platform would have various planks from the Repubican, Democrat, Green, Libertarian, Natural Law and Socialist parties (and probably a few others I forgot

). Put simply, I don't believe that blindly following one ideology will lead us to the best answers for every problem.

Post by **pixel** » Sat Nov 13, 2004 11:01 am

Unaffilliated/Independent

I dislike both Democrats and Republicans equally. However, I did vote for Kerry.
Personally, I think that there are much better ways to have our election system organized

fatheadpi · Post by **fatheadpi** » Sat Nov 13, 2004 8:29 pm

you libertarians and green party peole are cool as hell but you're never going to win anything so why bother? seriously?

Because Libertarians and Greens give a f*ck about the country they live in. Notice how it's the Libertarians and Greens calling for the recall in Ohio. They know it won't mean that either of them will win, but they want things doen right. They may not agree, and may be on opposite sides of the spectrum, but they actually value their rights and home, and will fight for them. Get over that defeatist "well what's the point" attitude, get off your ass, and become one of us. Libertarian, preferably.

Hell Ross Perot got 17% of the vote, I could see the libertarians getting 10% in the not so far off future.

If he wouldn't have pulled out early like a highschooler without a rubber, he'd have probably gotten even more than that. Hell, he might have won. Anyone have any long-term statistics for voting numbers? I thought I heard the Libertarians and Greens made some gains this year, but have no source to confirm that.

Lord_Ball · Post by **Lord_Ball** » Mon Nov 15, 2004 6:39 am

fatheadpi wrote: Does it matter? I'm a Libertarian, and I voted for Republican, Democrat (albeit only one), and Libertarian Candidates in different positions.

No it doesn't really matter, I'm just curious as to what real purpose the party system has in this day and age. We could EASILY get along without it and quite possibly end up being a better nation that way, but that's my opinion.